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| Posted: 06 Jan 2008 21:26 | ||
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I did tape this episode again as I figured I have watched this long already I might as well find out how it ends at the end of the season. I did however have to fast forward through about 1/3 of the episode because it was just so bad that it was hard to watch.
I will just say a couple things here. You know there are problems with the show when they feel the need to include a porno flick into an episode. That is all I am going to say about that. It is about time they get off this older trashy woman being attracted to highschool bad boy idea. It ran its course last year when they had Tim's neighber messing around with him and it looks like they are possibly trying to set-up a scenario with this other girl and Tim (not sure what her name is). The whole idea is just immature. My only reasoning behind them continuing to put dumb Tim storylines in like that is because the writers know that a big chunk of the audience of this show are teenage females and many of whom think Tim is hot so what better way to give a nod to them than to show how hot he is by having all these older women gravel (sp) over him. I live in Kansas and have seen several natural disasters and how people react to them. And after them people begin to focus on the important things of life. So them using a Tornado disaster just to show a feud between two different teams just seems wildly out of place. And how conveniant that the coach jumped the gun and kicked Tim out of the house to continue on Tim's past demons story arc. When if he just waited for two seconds to see what was going on he could have realized that Tim indeed was just putting her into bed. How conveniant. Landry and Tyra don't even deserve to be talked about. This show is truly on its last legs. |
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| Posted: 10 Jan 2008 22:00 | ||
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Well it seems like you HOPE it is. That's one thing we know for sure......Why would you even bother to finish watching the episodes if you think it's turning into such a horrible program? 
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| Posted: 11 Jan 2008 01:01 | ||
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DaveNolte, easy tiger...no need to flame lastcat. He's disappointed in the show. Leave it at that. He doesn't just come here to complain - he comes here to vent his frustration over an excellent show that is slouching towards mediocrity every week.
Until last week, in my opinion. I think last week's ep was the best of the season so far, and it really inspired me to keep watching. We wanted more football and we got it. We got to see Coach Taylor be a hard-ass and stand up to the other coach. Though, I think it might have been more interesting if Coach had actually taken a swing at the opposing coach and faced the consequences. I wouldn't hate the Landry and Tyra storyline as much if it hadn't been so ridiculously forced with the murder, etc. Of course, the question in my mind is whether Tyra is avoiding a relationship with Landry because she simply can't see herself with a man who treats her respectfully, or because she is heeding Landry's father's demand to stay away. The Coach/Riggins misunderstanding is not going to be resolved soon, since I don't think it matters much to Coach whether Riggins was just trying to help a drunk Julie to bed. It's the appearance of impropriety that matters most to dad. I can't see anything good coming from this, except for maybe a big brother-type friendship between Julie and Riggins. I mean, I'm crazy about Julie and when that sleazeball at the party was like "I figure I'm one beer away from getting laid tonight" I wanted to throttle him myself. All in all, I think the whole tone of this episode was better than the entire season so far. They are getting back to the real, gritty dialogue...the handheld, amateurish camera angles. It feels a lot less forced, and it feels like the cast is more comfortable, too. Maybe the uncertainty about cancellation spilled over into filming those first few eps, or maybe the cast was not 100 percent behind the whole Landry/Tyra murder subplot, either. The biggest problem I have with the show these days is the unfinished story arcs. What about Riggins' meth-addled roomie? Julie's Humbert-esque teacher? And whatever happened to Smash's bipolar girlfriend? Even 90210 didn't drop as many loose-end storylines as this show does. The other thing that's problematic to me is, the characters really don't get equal time. What happened to Street and the waitress girl? What about Lyla's youth ministry stuff? I realize you can't cram everything into 46 minutes, but at least give us some continuity. That's my $0.02. I'm ready for your flaming response, Mr. Nolte. |
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| Posted: 11 Jan 2008 17:24 Last Edited By: Bethica | ||
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I agree with the getting slightly annoyed at the older women/teenage boys thing. Tim sleeps with everybody and I've been glad to see him growing up a little... but Matt with Carlotta? UGH!
Being the happily ever after type that I am, I'd like to see Matt and Julie back together and Tim reform himself enough to impress Lyla. Waverly needs to come back. And the show is not going to the dogs, it just needs to keep doing what it's doing with football, real life problems and amazing acting. And it needs to make itself more realistic with people actually getting in trouble for sleeping with minors. Thats probably my biggest peeve with the show. Other than that, I watch it every week. :-) |
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| Posted: 12 Jan 2008 00:45 | ||
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That's right Bethica,
It would be alright if these young characters were four or five years older (say 23 or 24) and fresh out of college (alot of women like younger adult males(rather they decide to sleep with them or not)). But these are still highschool kids for crying out loud (and 99% of people are smart enough to know that highschool kids (even if they are kind of cute) are totally off limits (heck most people would consider college kids totally off limits). I still say the main reason they do this is because of the fan base (the young girls watching the show want to have confirmation about how hot Riggins is so what better way to show it than to have older women chasing after him). It is easy to tell that the majority of the fan base of FNL is addolescent females (you go onto the NBC boards and the vast majority of threads don't have anything at all to do with the storyline (they are mainly just about how hott Riggins is(which I think is just another indication of just how poorly planned out this series was (I seriously doubt when the show began they were pursuing teeny bopperish females as the main audience)))). And even if they are trying to get back to what worked in season 1 how can they really expect for people to accept that (who aren't just watching it because of Riggins) after the stunts they pulled at the beginning of the season. It's like they were just throwing out ideas without having meetings about the cause and effect each idea would have. Someone thought of an idea that might be cool and the head writer (or whoever it is that makes the final decision of what goes in and what stays out) just continued to lean back in his chair and seemingly concentrating more on the cigarette he was smoking than on the actual topic at hand said 'good deal put it in the book'. |
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| Posted: 12 Jan 2008 21:06 | ||
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Ahem...
Realistically, any time you put a cute guy on TV you will have an adolescent female fan base. Since we're not out to condemn FNL's head writer or accuse him of not caring about the show, let's not make statements that would present him as an idiot. If the show doesn't work for you, don't watch it. I just watched the Pilot last night and fell in love with the characters all over again, but this is the way that TV works, heck, this is the way that life works. People get in stupid messes and the fun of it is seeing what kind of people they are and how they get out. Smash listened to his coach and is going to TMU, thats awesome. Julie told her Dad about Tim and now has to face the consequences of drinking, good for her. Honesty is the best policy. Tim just stole $3000, that was stupid. Matt is sleeping with an older woman in his grandmother's house, he's being idiotic, but then again people are idiotic. Maybe in a real small town you don't deal with rape, murder, meth labs and theft. But the point of the show is the characters, and for that, FNL is still hitting the mark with me. |
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| Posted: 12 Jan 2008 23:54 | ||
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Bethica,
The joke about the head writer was just a figure of speech to illustrate just how bad the research and planning seems to be on this show. Not to be taken so seriously. Would you rather me say all the FNL writers need to go back to writing school? And yes, alot of times you will have an adolescent fan base whenever an attractive member of the opposite sex is on screen. But most of those shows are the 90210 or Melrose Place or the O.C. types of shows. And that is exactly what FNL tried to avoid becoming like (the teeny bopper shows like that that were good to the very young but very immature and dumb to anybody older than that). And honestly do you think if they wanted teenage females to be the main audience the show had when it started do you think they would have made the show about football? I really kind of doubt it. And I'm sorry but storylines on big-time television networks need to be a little more valid and thought provoking than the ones that are currently on FNL. How many people do you think would be stupid enough to steal $3,000 from a drug dealer? How many older women are stupid enough to sleep with (let alone get into some type of relationship like the show is indicating) with highschool boys? How pathetic is it that they used a natural disaster as a means to show a rivalry with another school (when most everybody knows that in a real natural disaster football wouldn't be that important anymore)? And how attrociously bad was the whole murder plot? Yes people do make mistakes. But FNL should do a better job of making the mistakes and what ocurrs afterward a little more viable if they want to be a respectable television show. If all the show is looking for is to illustrate the mistakes youths make (no matter how far fetched the mistakes seem) they need to go to the cable network that houses all those current teeny bopper programs. |
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| Posted: 14 Jan 2008 06:10 | ||
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Hey Lastcat,
Women's Murder Club comes on Fridays at 9. If you don't like FNL anymore and won't recognize any of the positive steps that the writers are trying to take to get back on track, you should check the other show out. It's not a perfect show but it's sure as hell better than anything else on TV. |
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| Posted: 14 Jan 2008 06:11 | ||
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| I meant FNL was the better show, not that piece of crap Women's Murder Club. | ||
| Posted: 14 Jan 2008 19:55 | ||
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No flaming responses PRguy72. I just think the show is great. I also like that they seem to have a ton, even if, yes,too many plotlines. It seems to let the show "breathe a little more" if you will. I don't have to see the same ol' stuff or same storyline EVERY WEEK. I find I usually become board with TV or movies if there is not enogh going on and lose interest, These guys have SO much going on that the newest episode answered acouple of questions but opened up even more, let alone all the storylines Ill have to wait 'til next week to (hope) that they touch upon, and if not, I know they'll come back to it sooner or later and I'm patient. It just keeps me speculating constantly. 
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